I'm like Rivergirl on this one, Life. I'd be concerned the phone is, for some reason, not actually registered, yet. Mine, clearly registered (confirmed online, yesterday), shows a credit of 1,100 pesos, expiring June 7.
I don't know, Jim, looks like Movistar is taking on a huge responsibility by challenging the new law on the basis of a constitutional claim: they're looking at tons of legal fees, and possibly massive fines, if they persist in this and don't ultimately prevail against the government.
There is this Spanish invention perfected by Mexico called an "amparo"--anyone can get it for almost anything and for almost any reason to stop almost any legal process. It is one of the reasons it is so difficult to put anyone in jail for anything. In fact the U.N. has asked Mexico to get rid of it. The current "Mayor" of Cancun on leave of absence--Greg--before he left office (where he--like any and everyone else in public office in Mexico--has immunity from prosecution) took out an "amparo" so no one could press charges on him for anything and it is even more more open than the usual ones. Doesn't cost a lot and, under the guise of protecting the constitutional rights of its customers, they can continue to make money which they wouldn't be able to do if they turned off all the cell phones. From Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amparo_(law) "Origins of Amparo in Mexico See es:Juicio de amparo The Mexican Amparo has inspired many and served as a model in other judicatures. In the Philippines, Chief Justice Reynato Puno noted that the model for Amparo was borrowed from Mexico: the Writ of Amparo is a Mexican legal procedure to protect human rights.[3] Of Mexican origin, thus, “Amparo” literally means “protection” in Spanish.[4] De Tocqueville’s "Democracy in America" had been available in Mexico, in 1837 and its description of judicial review practice in the U.S. appealed to many Mexican jurists.[5] Mexican justice Manuel Crescencio Rejón, drafted a constitutional provision for his native state, Yucatan, which empowered jurists to protect all persons in the enjoyment of their constitutional and legal rights. This was incorporated into the 1847 national constitution.[6][7] The great writ proliferated in the Western Hemisphere, slowly evolving into various fora. Amparo became, in the words of a Mexican Federal Supreme Court Justice, Mexico’s “task of conveying to the world’s legal heritage that institution which, as a shield of human dignity, her own painful history conceived.”[8][9] Amparo's evolution and metamorphosis had been witnessed, for several purposes: "(1) amparo libertad for the protection of personal freedom, equivalent to the habeas corpus writ; (2) amparo contra leyes for the judicial review of the constitutionality of statutes; (3) amparo casacion for the judicial review of the constitutionality and legality of a judicial decision; (4) amparo administrativo for the judicial review of administrative actions; and (5) amparo agrario for the protection of peasants’ rights derived from the agrarian reform process." [10] Mexico's "recurso de amparo" is found in Articles 103 and 107 of the Mexican Constitution -- the judicial review of governmental action, to empower state courts to protect individuals against state abuses. Amparo was sub-divided into 5 legal departments: (a) the Liberty Amparo (amparo de libertad); (b) the Constitutionality Amparo (amparo contra leyes); (c) the Judicial or “Cassation” Amparo, aimed at the constitutionality of a judicial interpretation; (d) the Administrative Amparo (amparo como contencioso-administrativo); and (e) the Agrarian Amparo (amparo en materia agraria, ejidal y comunal).[11]"
1.- Just got my confirmation that my number has been registered via the CURP texting method. Took about 24 hours. They say about 56 million are registered and that is about 60% of the total. 2.- Telcel confirms that it will definitely cut off service at 12 midnight on Saturday to the lines not registered. They mention that even if the line is suspended, the customer will not lose the time/credit. 3.- Government says if Movistar doesn't cut service to its clients that the government will.
I did get my RNE, but wasn't able to get a CURP because the system was down.... AGAIN! So I went directly to the Telcel service center in Gran Plaza. Wow - We were met at the door by a rep asking if we were there to register our phones. She asked for passport or FM3, said she would make a photocopy (but I already had one with me). She then asked me to write the phone number(s) I wanted to register on the photocopy, handed it to a guy sitting at a desk who was entering the info on a computer and she said, you're done. The whole process took less than a minute. So easy! Now I have fingers crossed that the process actually worked and my phone is registered. FYI, it appeared that the registration process was different for foreigners. She mentioned that our registrations had to be processed in a different way and that's why I shouldn't get in the line, that she'd handle it directly with a photocopy of the passport or FM3, allowing me to bypass the line. This process seems like the way to go for anyone without a CURP, or on an FMT, or not having success registering with the text message method, etc
A very politically active friend in DF wrote today to say that if they were going to shut off his cell then he wanted his friends to have his landline numbers. His email was a preemptive strike. I asked him why he hadn't registered yet, he said he didn't trust the govt not to misuse the data and that he was engaging in an act of civil disobedience by not registering. I asked him how the possibility of having to pay that rat-bastard Carlos Slim a reconnection fee was going to further his political agenda. Not that I agree with the law, I don't. But I also know people who have been recipients of extortion phone calls. And there is some reason to think that some portion of those extortion calls are made by people who simply comb the phone book, and as such are abusing a public database. And besides that in my last real job I had access to US-wide databases that had home values, debt levels, spending habits all mixed up with Census data. Big brother already knows everything about you anyway...
I'm predicting a last minute extension.. and several shiny new Ferrari's parked outside the capitol offices by days end tomorrow.... also for what it's worth my balance now says it will expire on the 21st.. so maybe I'm ok... :icon_question: guess I'll find out the same way everyone else will....
Life - Methinks you are becoming Mexican...every Mexican I know (well, almost) is predicting a last minute extension. I hope you are registered. And, frankly, I'm bored, so I hope they don't extend it and all heck breaks loose. Well, maybe I shouldn't say that...or think that....or wish that...
Well it's 12:22am and I have been texting away. I never registered my phone...unless it was done back in October when I bought my SIM card.....so I have no idea what is going on.
Well supposedly it will happen at Midnight today.... if you bought your phone in October they may have done it for you... do you recall if they asked for your ID? I know when I bought a phone recently, I had to fight with the guy NOT to put my info with the simcard as it wasn't for me....
