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Discussion in 'Free For All' started by Michael F., Oct 18, 2008.

  1. apple

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    parka's and muckaluks? oh oh oh and a hat with flappies covering her ears?
     
  2. Michael F.

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  3. Michael F.

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    Well pardon the interruption on the previous fashion critiques, but more in-line with Michael F's post - let’s face it the election will be decided by the undecided. Now, new poll shows a clear majority of undecided voters disagree with Obama’s plan for wealth redistribution in America. Personally I don't mind paying my FAIR share of taxes, but I sure as hell don't want to give my portion of taxes to someone who pays none at all !!!

    Poll: Voters Against Obama 'Wealth Redistribution' Plan
    http://www.cnbc.com/id/27339578

    Washington, D.C. – Election Day is only two weeks away, and as John McCain and Barack Obama make their final pitches to “close the deal” with voters, a stunning new ATI-News/Zogby poll shows a clear majority of undecided voters disagree with Obama’s plan for wealth redistribution in America.

    “The major issue on voters’ minds right now is the economy, and the major voting bloc on candidates’ minds right now is the undecided voter,” said ATI-News president Brad O’Leary. “Our poll results show that undecided voters overwhelmingly reject Obama’s economic plan to redistribute wealth.”
    The poll surveyed 1,214 likely voters nationwide and was conducted October 17-20. It has a margin of error of +/- 2.9 percentage points.

    ATI-News/Zogby asked likely voters: “John McCain and other critics say Barack Obama is heavily influenced by people and organizations which seek social justice through redistribution of wealth in America. Do you agree or disagree with efforts to bring social justice by the redistribution of wealth?”

    By a more than two-to-one margin, undecided voters disagree with such efforts to redistribute wealth. In total, 57 percent of undecided voters said they disagreed, while only 24 percent said they agreed (19 percent are not sure).

    A majority (52 percent) of self-identified Independent voters also disagree with efforts to bring social justice through wealth redistribution. Only 39 percent of Independents agree (10 percent are not sure).

    “In his candid conversation with ‘Joe the plumber,’ Obama made clear that his main economic goal is to redistribute wealth, not strengthen and grow our economy,” said O’Leary. “This is pure socialism, albeit thinly veiled, and it does not resonate with hard-working Americans who would rather keep their money than have Obama redistribute it to his favorite constituencies.”

    O’Leary also noted that Obama’s tax welfare plan, coupled with his goal of raising barriers to free trade, “makes for a toxic mix that could drive America’s economy into a prolonged depression.”

    “Obama isn’t the second coming of JFK,” said O’Leary, “He’s the reincarnation of Herbert Hoover.”
     
  5. Zackman

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    Well looky here:
    Joe Biden, a hypocrite and fraud at his best?


    But, But, wait!
    Are you telling me history could repeat itself (i.e., Kennedy vs. Khrushchev)
    and someone like Obama with no foreign policy experience could really screw-up?
     
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  6. Michael F.

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    In 2007, for the first time ever our household broke the magical $250K barrier. As a result of our good fortune, T decided to open her own business and I quit my job to help out. The idea was that we could someday make the same income, but also run things on our own terms. We have so far this year employed two other persons besides ourselves.

    Now--one year into our venture--T has realized the burdens of being a small business owner as well as being an employer. Taxes, fees, equipment, supplies, a huge loan, rent, etc, etc... Advertising, wages, worries, worries, worries...

    And she will be expected to pay "her fair share" so someone who doesn't have the motivation to improve their own lot gets to spend a little bit more. Are you kidding me? Good-bye small business. Farewell to those who we now employ and will have to search for someone else to hire them. It's great for the welfare system...err..economy, however!!!!!
     
  7. Currrrvy-on-crack

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    Micheal - isn't there a tax credit for companies that maintain or create US based jobs?
     
  8. Michael F.

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    Lowering healthcare costs w/health care tax credit...doesn't apply here as we barely can afford to pay ourselves.

    $500 tax credit per worker. How much does that really offset being just over the $250K barrier, in a whole other tax bracket?

    Loan program...don't need another loan now.

    Fed funding for innovation & high tech job creation...don't qualify.

    Invest in woman-owned small businesses...doesn't apply to us even tho T is owner.

    Minority access to capital/loans...don't need another loan now.

    Communications industry ownership...doesn't apply to us.

    Promote Hurricane Katrina businesses...what, how many years later? We aren't in this category, anyways.

    Emergency relief, small rural businesses, digital inclusion...N/A, N/A, N/A...

    http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/SmallBusinessFINAL.pdf


    All that I really see is creative new ways Obama intends to spend OUR hard-earned money :mad:
     
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    FROM ABC NEWS ... TODAY

    Election Day often comes down to the results of a few crucial battleground states where key electoral votes can hold the key to the White House.

    In 2000, that battleground was certainly Florida. In 2004, much of the election seemed to hinge on the results in Ohio.

    In eight key battleground states, Democrat Barack Obama has taken an increasingly commanding electoral lead over Republican John McCain. This year, the campaigns are focusing their time and money on several critical states where the race is hard-fought.

    But with the election looming just a week and a half away, Democratic candidate Barack Obama has taken an increasingly commanding electoral-vote lead in eight critical battleground states that could decide the presidency.

    ABC News has looked at several factors to assess how those electoral votes may fall on Election Day -- including reporting from the campaigns themselves, national party officials, outside groups, House and Senate party committees, state parties and polls.
    Analysis shows that Republican candidate John McCain's support in these states -- all of which went to George W. Bush in both 2000 and 2004 -- may not be enough.

    On Wednesday, a top Republican campaign official told ABC News' George Stephanopoulos on the condition of anonymity that the Obama campaign is on a roll.
     
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