Well, I do agree, the whole blamming the other side is REALLY old, I do have to put my two cents in when it comes to Immigrants working in the US... I have a VERY close friend who owns a business with his brothers....Landscaping, power washing and snow removal. He and his brothers come to Mexico to recruit their employess and they do it the legal way. Everyone has their papers. And they get a fair wage. I don't think it's fair to say as Americans, homeowners and businesses should take care of their own property, cause in the end you are taking away from a legitimate business.
Tori I think you are missing the point. If everyone did like your close friend. we wouldnt be having this discussion. And no one is saying Americans should be taking care of their own places. However, too many contractors are doing this work-getting a good price-hire anyone that can that work for cash so no one has to pay taxes and paying less than what they should-with no medical benifits and no retirement. Those greedy contractors started this-its time someone stopped them.
Sorry.. I have to read this and shake my head.... I've never seen the mean spiritness shown Arizona for saying that they are going to enforce laws that are already on the books. Their new law says nothing more than make sure those that are here are here legally. People are called racist and mean spirited when they arrest illegal immigrants and send them home, you know enforcing existing laws. I guess using that logic; we would be mean spirited to arrest bank robbers that are just trying to feed their family. I have seen any of you out protesting their arrests. And how about addressing the 800 pound elephant in the room? When is someone going to say, rather than the US has to change it's laws, Mexico needs to enforce their laws? If people were able to put in a hard days work for a decent salary in Mexico, there would be no need for folks to move to the US in the first place. If corruption and lawlessness wasn't so rampant in Mexico maybe we would have an immigration problem. It's about time we addressed the problems rather than the symptoms. I have a hard time being called racist and mean spirited because I want the existing laws on the books to be enforced. Those that call people racist and mean spirited do so only because they no longer have facts to work with so they try and scare the other into submission. Well it's been played so much that it doesn't mean anything anymore so you need to go get some fact to work with and drop the emotional attacks. Jamie
Racial profiling is NEVER a good thing, Im sure we can all agree on that. I think we all agree and realize that something has to be done, but there are ways and ways. Im amused that very few Americans even mention the big businesses that make big $$$ using illegal workers... I know the meat/poultry industry(Tyson, Smithfield etc.) use a LOT of illegal workers, yet I never hear of ANYONE being prosecuted for hiring these workers... Its like drug laws that only target the addicts, but turns a blind eye to the makers, sellers, buyers and smugglers. As I understand it, a LOT of the corruption is linked to(amongst other..) the drug smuggling. Wouldnt it be fair for US to step in more actively and find out why the need/appetite for drugs seems to be so huge in their own country..? Many Americans say "Let Mexico deal with it - its THEIR problem"... Well, not really - Mexico just happens to be the gateway to US for the drugs... Same goes for the illegal workers, no? How come there are any jobs at all for them? How come Americans "refuse" to take these jobs...? How come companies get away with it, time after time after time, meanwhile the workers literally get thrown out? Im NOT trying to justify going to a country illegally to work etc. Im simply trying to understand the one sided view many people seem to have when it comes to this issue. Would it be possible to give them some sort of temporary working permit? There clearly are jobs that needs to be done that Americans(for whatever reason/s..), refuse to do. Im confused as it seems many Americans want to both eat the cake and keep it... Now, when it comes to blaming "scary Socialism", Obama etc. I can only laugh and I have a really hard time taking any comments like that seriously I dont hear anyone crying about socialism when it comes to many of the services that we have in and around our society... Just for fun: I would love to, just as an experiment, to make it legal for authorities to apprehend every single white male from US between the age of 20 - 70 years old, that are traveling and returning from Thailand and other parts of South East Asia, as being suspects of pedophilia and sex-tourism. Just to sit back and enjoy the uproar/outcry about racial profiling. NOTE: As an experiment, nothing more, so no need to dig out the old torch and hay-fork just yet
Lets not forget those who go to Mexico for the same and those who send the children to the USA as well.
I so so so agree with this. When the Economic Crash first happened and people were being layed off left and right, the Job Classifieds were FILLED with positions available. But everyone felt like working a position that is below them would be out of the question.. like Target, Walmart, a Restaurant and so on. And that pissed me off. A friend of mines Aunt was laid off from a VP Position with a Bank/Insurance Co, and was making a salary about $175,000 a year and when she was presented with opportunities that fell below $90,000 she refused right away. That was about 1.5 years ago, and she is still without a job, but continues to shop at Saks 5th Ave. And I know a handful of ppl that acting the same way. The American attitude is something I will never miss. I love and appreciate being around people who value the pesos that they make and don't take for granted that atleast they have a job.
See this is where you take a fact and make it fiction to fit your need to judge other people without knowing a thing.... Do you know what the new law in Arizona says.. did you even ask or are you just having a holier than thou moment and making it up as you go along? Does the law say anything about arresting people? If you bothered to check you would see that it doesn't. The law simply states that when a police officer comes into contact with anyone in the normal course of their investigations, they are to check and verify their citizenship. So your analogy has nothing to do with reality but is meant to piss people off and stir things up. When you get some facts come back and we'll talk again. Jamie
Moving this to Free For All, has nothing to do with Living in Cancun and much more to do with living in the US.
Are you seriously suggesting that the US should 'address the problems' in Mexico? Mexico is another country you know, not part of the US. What business does the US have in 'fixing problems' in Mexico?
