Well, I agree that there has not yet been any meaningful DEBATE in this thread. I posted something funny and got more or less attacked for being on the left. Then there was a bunch of talk about people on both sides not being open minded. It is my opinion that Bush is more or less an idiot. And it is my opinion that this war Iraq is wrong. And it is my opinion that the Republicans often speak more for big business than for the needs of the people. But just because I HAVE opinions does not make me close minded. It does not mean I'm unwilling to debate the issues. It just means I know what I think, and I'm sure you know what you think as well. If you would like to debate the issues then let's do so. However, I have a feeling that in this environment we will get dragged down to the lowest common denominator. Here's the definition of Debate: v.intr. 1. To consider something; deliberate. 2. To engage in argument by discussing opposing points. 3. To engage in a formal discussion or argument.