Another question about working in Cancun...

Discussion in 'Living in Cancun' started by Luckie, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. V

    V I can choose my own title Registered Member

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    OTHER OPTIONS

    Luckie, something else you might consider as a "backup" position, if you're looking for adventure, and a change of environment, plus a chance to be in this part of the world, is a job on a cruise ship that plies the Caribbean. They will have fewer issues with hiring a "foreigner," will pay a living wage, and could offer you a nice opportunity to try something new.

    If you don't have kids, this could be a fine time for you and your husband to do something different, and fun, together. Without knowing, I suppose you could offer yourselves to a cruise line as a "set"!

    If this sounds like something worth exploring, you could go on line to see if there are any limitations on hiring couples.
     
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    Re: YOUR PRESENCE IS REQUIRED!

    It seems obvious that you have never tried to immigrate to the US and find a job there as a foreigner!!!

    At least you can live here, as a retired or other status. The US kick you out of the country, or won't allow you to go back there if you have not been out of the country long enough, on the sole discretion of the immigration agent, since there is no law (I just contacted a lawyer).

    I am not saying it is easy to find a job here, even less if you are more than 25, but you can live with an FM3. "Welcome to the US" is just a word, as a foreigner, you are NOT. I don't have all the info yet, but it doesn't seem possible to be self-employed there, and get a visa.

    and like in ANY other country, you can't take a job that can be supposedly done by a local
     
  3. Luckie

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    That's an interesting idea actually. But we have a son coming with us who will be 14. Maybe we could put him to work too LOL...
     
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    V I can choose my own title Registered Member

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    IMMIGRATING TO THE U.S.

    I think you're right, in general, Jenlieb. It is much easier in many ways to get permission to live and work in Mexico, than in the U.S. But, there are many people from around the world who go to the U.S. to live and work, legally, every year.

    For example, those with special skills, unusual capabilities and high education or individual achievement can, and often do, get visas to live and work in the U.S. Examples of those, and others who are given visas, are high fashion models; some professional athletes, and some younger athletes of exceptional promise; renowned scientists, researchers and educators; medical professionals of a number of different types, including pharmacists and nurses and, less often, doctors; investors who are willing to invest one million U.S. dollars, and agree to hire at least eight people in the U.S.; not to mention fiances of U.S. citizens, teachers on exchange programs, students, summer interns, summer camp employees, au pairs, and those lucky enough to win the annual visa lottery, in which 50,000 visas are given to people from a large number of different countries- invited in just to add to the mix of people now living in the U.S. (Countries which are already well represented in the U.S., like Mexico, are excluded from the visa lottery. In the part of the U.S. I'm from, for example, about 30% of the population have Spanish surnames, and all official documents must be printed in both Spanish and English.)

    As I mentioned on the "Why do you live in Cancun" thread, one of the reasons we chose Mexico was we felt we would be allowed in, on conditions we were prepared to try to meet. And, you're right, we're grateful for that, though I suspect you've met people from the U.S. who have been denied permission to live and work, in Mexico.
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    I'm happy to be a U.S. passport holder, but those who I envy are the ones who hold passports from the EU, who are free, as I understand it, to choose from any of about 25 of the most interesting, historic and beautiful countries on the planet in which to live, and work.
     
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    That's nice of you, and you are right. I do have unusual capabilities, I just have to convince someone to "buy" them :lol:

    My EU passport is not free, neither is my Canadian one. I am "free" to travel from one country to another one, but Europe is not as big as the US, remember? You can do the same inside the US. The Mexican one, well... I got it for 10 years, so I forgot how much it cost me. I just remember that I have been very very lucky to get my citizenship before the exam :wink:

    Yes, I love France and other European countries for the culture, food, shopping etc... But I love warm climate... if not I would still be in Toronto. I felt very at home there... in July :). I had an exciting job.

    I have other countries in mind, I am trying hard to achieve something. Gathering a lot of info. I am very persistent.

    I know many people from many countries who gave up on Mexico (Cancun especially) because mostly they were denied to work here, not having skills or not accepting low wages, but also they couldn't adjust to... hmmm.... the culture. It took me 10 years. There were the same kind who left Africa, Canada also...

    Oh, BTW, I just read in a forum that visas for nurses were closed. Not sure...
     
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    Re: YOUR PRESENCE IS REQUIRED!

    Jenleib,

    What on earth are you talking about. In the US any foreignor with a Green Card most certainly can get a job that "can be supposedly done by a local."

    There are exceptions, of course, like a foreign born person cannot be President, except of course for BO who still seemingly has not provided evidence of his birthplace, but don't get me started on that.

    Point being, you are NOT CORRECT in the qoute at the beginning of this post.
     
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    Nurses

    Jenlieb, I'll go out on a limb, here, and suggest that Mexican nurses are not subject to the freeze you spoke of (it's officially referred to as "regression"), owing to the provisions of NAFTA.

    And, please understand, I'm not jumping on you, I just want to check out what you ran across on the internet. Please send us the website, and I'll have a look at it. I could be under a misimpression.
     
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    Re: YOUR PRESENCE IS REQUIRED!

    TJ, I think there are a few options:
    - you have not being carefully following Luckie's thread
    - I have not been clear enough (in that case you can nicely ask me to be more explicit)
    - you have not read my message
    - you have already been drinking too much

    What else? Please don't be so aggressive!

    Of course a green card holder can get any job!!!

    I was talking, as Luckie asked, about applying to a visa for employment. She was talking about Cancun, so I wanted to point that it is the same in the US (much more difficult), and any other country that I know of.

    V. I don't think at all you are jumping on me :lol: . I have been working a lot, went to many sites, and was not talking about Mexican nurses, but nurses in general, wanting to get a visa to the US (my mind is not here anymore, sorry). For sure, it is on City-Data, I will find the exact link and will post it.

    I didn't intend to "steal" Luckie's thread, but willing to put that problem into perspective. I find that exchange of ideas interesting.
     
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    T.J.:

    "I will show you President Obama's birth certificate when you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma." :lol:

    Seriously though: You CAN take a job that a "local" can do, BUT: Most countries have this law that Jenleib mentioned.

    Now, its not impossible, but it requires most employers to prove to immigration/government WHY a foreigner should get the job that a local can do.

    I have worked in US, Australia, Thailand, Finland, Italy, Spain and Portugal.

    In each and every one of these places the law stated that I would have to have skills that a local who was applying for the same job did NOT have.

    All the companies that hired me claimed that "He has the languages we need for this position" - I speak Swedish, Finnish, Danish, Norwegian, English, some German and Spanish - the law in Australia required the company to interview several locals in order to first of all give the job to a local. Not very likely to find an Australian who speaks more than 3-4 languages, and thus Immigration had no choice but to sign all the papers etc. :)

    Same story for me in US and all the other places.

    Thailand was the place where I had most problems with this issue, but it was soon straightened out.

    Also, the Green Card seems to be very particular for U.S. In Australia you can not get a similar visa - you will have too look for a company to sponsor you. If you apply and acquire Permanent Residency status(later Citizenship) then you can switch jobs like a "local".

    Hell, you guys even have a lottery for Green Cards..?? :)
     
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    V. I found the info:

    "Just being a nurse and certified by US standards does not mean visa or GC since the program specifically for nurses has been closed. There are still exceptions for medical staff open to working in areas with shortages."

    in http://www.city-data.com/forum/legal-immigration/630253-moving-florida-uk-3.html (wanting to move to Florida from UK). I guess it is the same from another country.
     
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