Tenencia (car tax) Law Change

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  1. Steve

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    Jannet mentioned to me earlier that Calderon has declared Tenencia is an 'optional' tax, but the individual state can declare whether it is compulsory or not, and that Quintana Roo has said that is.

    Or something like that.

    Can anyone explain this in a format I can understand?
     
  2. Jim in Cancun

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    In a nutshell, you have to pay it this year here in Q.Roo. Some states have already abrogated it and they are considering it here. (It is an election year after all.)
     
  3. Life_N_Cancun

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    Is there a tax surplus or something all of a sudden? I'd wonder how the president could just "declare" a tax optional..... aren't their laws and procedures in place relating to it? I guess if you're in a State that decided they don't want it (like thats going to happen) it makes a new car purchase more appealing. Perhaps the car dealers in D.F. have something to do with it?
     
  4. Jim in Cancun

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    No one will ever complain that there will be one less tax. I am not the one to ask about taxes. I think there should be more of them in Mexico. Not sure how long we can live off of an indebted oil company, beach taxes, cruise ship taxes, tourist taxes, departure taxes and populism (this means that everybody pays taxes but the people!). There is barely enough money the way it is now to support all of the corruption, kickbacks and payoffs.

    The less taxes and more free lunches (literally) speeches do play well at tax time though!

    (Have I been watching too much Glen beck?)
     
  5. mrbear

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    taxes in mexico

    ha ha thats funny jim, Please tax me more. I say enjor the low taxes while it last
     
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    From what various people have told me they never paid tenecia anyway. It seems like there isnt any penalty if you dont, apart fom making selling your car a little more difficult.

    Meanwhile I've paid mine diligently for the last 5 years with all the queuing in the sun, form filling and hassle that that entailed, maybe some 30,000 pesos over the years.

    Where do I apply for my refund?
     
  7. Life_N_Cancun

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    My understanding of the tenencia is this;

    *Cars older than 10 years don't pay (unless there is an outstanding balance)
    *You can't get your plates, circulation card, or title changed (ie:sell) without being up-to-date and paid.
    * The police can have your car impounded if they wish for unpaid tax.
    * The tax is roughly 10 percent of the car value for the first year, then 9, 8, etc... till 0 at year 11. Dealers often include the first year of tax in the sale price.


    That said, many people find it cheaper to just pay the cops off than pay the tax on their new cars. Some register their vehicles elsewhere or have "irregular" papers/plates (ie:fake or stolen). Federal police CAN check everything in their car computers, so if you're running a fake/wrong plate/papers and they check you'll be off to jail, whereas the locals would have a hard time checking such things since it would involve a lot of radio traffic and time waiting that they could better spend "working". Every once in a while you'll read about an "operation" to find those "irregular vehicles" at checkpoints, but its not frequent.
     
  8. 4NSPY

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    So what States don't you pay Tenencia in?

    I saw something online to the effect that if you pay before the end of this month there is a 50% discount? Any know know if this is indeed the case from their experience?
     
  9. RiverGirl

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    Isn't the Tenecia double taxation? Pay taxes when you buy a car and then pay taxes to keep owning it? I hate taxes like that.

    But we do pay our Tenecias because it's better to give the cops nothing to hassle us over. We get enough hassles when hubby passes in the right-hand shoulder on Colosio...

    I understand that pick up trucks do not have to pay Tenecia, which is not fair.
     
  10. Epic

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    Tenencia is supposed to be road tax, or that is what i was told, and vehicles with truck beds (Camionetas) that are registered to be work related vehicles only pay 1500 pesos. A lot of business owners use that loophole to pay less tax on their personal vehicles. I am under the impression that even the H2 Hummer with that tiny boot applies for the loophole.
     
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