Moving to mexico - letter to pres. Obama

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  1. v8eyedoc

    v8eyedoc Regular Registered Member

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    MOVING TO MEXICO


    Dear Mr. President:

    I'm planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.

    We're planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.

    We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.

    I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I'm on my way over?

    Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

    1. Free medical care for my entire family.

    2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

    3. Please print all Mexican government forms in English.

    4. I want my grandkids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.

    5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.

    6. I want my grandkids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.

    7. Please plan to feed my grandkids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

    8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

    9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico but I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.

    10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.

    11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

    12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.

    13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.

    14. I want to receive free food stamps.

    15. Naturally, I'll expect free rent subsidies.

    16. I'll need Income tax credits so although I don't pay Mexican Taxes, I'll receive money from the government.

    17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Gov't pays $4,500 to help me buy a new car.

    18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I'll get a monthly income in retirement.

    I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to the U.S. from Mexico . I am sure that President Calderon won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

    Thank you so much for your kind help. You're the man!!!








     
  2. matkirk

    matkirk Guru Registered Member

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    Inaccurate nonsense
     
  3. Gringation

    Gringation Guru Registered Member

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    Some of that made me laugh.

    Other parts, as MatKirk says, are nonsense.

    What's wrong with flags, decals and holidays to celebrate your heritage? (If it's referring to Cinco de Mayo, the only people I know who celebrate that holiday are gringos. And we're pretty obnoxious about it.)

    I'd also argue with the "nice job" mentioned in point number 12.

    I will wholeheartedly agree, however, with the bilingual teachers. When I was in high school in Virginia, my school began an ESL program. The ESL students had bilingual classes only for them. Not sure if I'm against it though, since they ARE teaching them English, after all.
     
  4. rawkus

    rawkus I can choose my own title Registered Member

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    I have a few responses, but I know that I would get "jumped" by 99% of the Americans on here, so I chose not to... :icon_mrgreen:
     
  5. T.J.

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    I think Eyedoc's post/letter is more accurate than inaccurate, but that is my conservatism showing, as well as how fed up I am of Obama and his back room Chicago style politics.

    I don't want to offend my buddy Mat, or my board buddy Rawkus as they are/might be or whatever, a bit left of moderate, while I lean the other way.

    To Gringation, I thought the same thing about #12.

    As to #11, where you take exception, nothing is wrong with doing that. I think the flag/decals part of Eyedoc's letter, to perhaps clarify, is that recently American flags and decals and tee shirts (and American Flag lapel pins in the case of Almighty Obama) seem to be out of place with the left leaning liberals, most of whom are soooo far left they have fallen over. Recently some Mexican kids hung a Mexican flag at their school on Cinco de Mayo while some American kids got in trouble for wearing American Flag tee shirts on the same day.

    As to #4 and sort of as to #2, we foreigners here in Mexico need to learn the language in order to survive in dealing with business, government or whatever. If we happen to run across an English speaking bureaucrat, who will actually speak it with us, that is great, and many willingly do, even if for nothing more than to practice their English. In Florida though, signs, drivers license exams, forms to evict non-paying tenants, subpoenas, and a laundry list of other things, are mandated by our idiot legistlatures to be in Spanish as well as English. The result is that it is possible to go into businesses, schools, airports, gov't offices and find people who do not speak English. My Spanish speaking skills are not that great but I can get by. But before I got to the get by stage, I was in Miami International Airport once and at a certain counter of a huge airline, and I could not get anyone to help me with a problem whose first language is English.

    A bit off the point but when I am at my home in FL I cannot go into either of the 2 Walmarts close to my home, and be looking for something where I need some help from a human, without finding a worker who speaks next to zero English. I am now ok enough to use it as an opportunity to practice my Spanish.

    Eyedoc's letter was of course not written to be really sent, it was meant to entertain us, and probably help with his frustration that many Americans feel with our current administration. If he sent it, it would most certainly be ignored, as are so many of the wishes of the majority of people whose wishes are ignored by the people in office to represent them. In Florida, again for example, the citizens were solidly against Obamacare, in the form it was presented, that being thousands of pages long, no time for the elected to folks to understand what they were being asked to vote on, no time for debate, just cram it down our throats politics. We have this suck up Sen. Bill Nelson, whose nose is so far up Obama's you know what, whose constituents are so heavily against that voting issue, and told him so in so many ways in so many venues. He did not vote in the interests how the majority wanted him to vote. He is so much smarter than the majority of the voters and my bet is that it will cost him his job in 2 years. The democratic strategy is to give so much to the people who are too lazy to work since their income would drop, but they will go out ever 2-4 years and vote for the people who are giving away our country, essentially by buying votes with their tax and spend practices.

    Enough, my blood pressure seems too high at the moment. Sorry to have ended off track here. What the heck though.
     
  6. Gringation

    Gringation Guru Registered Member

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    TJ - Oh, yeah! I'd read about the 5 de mayo incident a few days ago, and totally forgot. It does seem like the kids with the American flag shirts were kind of acting like douchebags (bc I'm pretty sure it was intentionally to piss some people off), but still, they have every right to wear the American flag if they want to. Ridiculous.

    I'm with you in your Obama frustrations. He promised some immigration reform awhile back, and has yet to deliver. I see both sides of the issue, so I don't lean too heavily either way, but SOMETHING has to be done... either be more agressive about kicking them out, or legalize them so they can contribute more to society. It's not cool to just leave things as they are and have illegal immigrants sponging off everybody else, IMO.

    *shields herself from angry incoming comments*
     
  7. rawkus

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    Haha, most politicians make promises - none(or close to..) keeps them - thats part of politics, regardless left, right or middle and region/country in the world :)

    We(yes, "we" as the entire world), had to put up with 8 years of Bushism... :icon_lol:

    Regarding illegals: Im amazed how people somehow seem to "forget" the actually companies/people who hire them...

    Companies that hire illegals(regardless if they are Mexicans or "others") should be punished.

    They seem to get off the hook. Not very surprising since most big companies have close ties with many "big guys" in important positions...

    Back home in Sweden, we currently have a coalition of the Capitalist party, the Central Party and the Christian party... Being a Socialist country for the majority of our modern time, these ****** have completely managed to destroy major parts of our society.

    Last time the right wing had power, it took 2 years before enough people demanded a re-election: Well, they got thrown out faster than a bag of garbage.

    The sad part? In two years, they had managed to spend our savings from the last 25 years... The even sadder part? They have YET proven where the money went...

    Now they are messing things up... again.

    They have had the lowest support since gaining power and now they are destroying themselves due to internal disagreement.

    Flirting with two openly racist parties is not exactly helping....

    They are, again, on their way out when the next election comes around this year.

    Sorry for getting off track a "bit" :aktion025:

    Anyways, i also agree(not even being American), that something has to be done.

    But please, make sure to not only punish those who seek a better life, but also(and especially) those who profit from this big time and as always, walk free.

    Now Im going to have a cold beer and take the dog out for a walk :)
     
  8. T.J.

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    Gringation - You are probably right on your two assessments of the kids acting like douchebags and that they have a right to wear the flag. Now I have 3 questions for you.

    1. Isn't it great to see that Rawkus has strong feelings? I was beginning to wonder if he had a heart. Je je.

    2. Do you think those kids, no matter how they manifested it, were making a point about how ridiculous grown up decision makers really have no standards, double or otherwise?

    3. Do you think Obama is a douchebag?

    xoxo,
     
  9. Steve

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    If that's how anyone feels then I recommend they stay in the good old USA. It's the best country in the World you know.

    At least, at least (again for emphasis) 50% of the US people I have met here are running from indiscretions back home and illegal too.
     
  10. gbchayctca

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    I can't think of any word to describe that "letter" other than mean-spirited. Anyone who truly professes to respect the Mexican culture and people would have spent enough time with Mexican nationals of all different socio-economic classes and gained at least a basic understanding of the factors that drive Mexicans across the border.

    While I've met dozens of engaged, respectful expats in Cancun, I've met at least hundreds of immigrants to the US (both legal and illegal). The ratio is probably pretty even. Yet the percentage of expat native English speakers who are complete douchebags in Cancun an Mexico in general is much, much higher than the percentage of obnxious illegal immigrants in the US.

    That letter is just straight up gross and irks my nerves every time I read it.
     
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