Importing (Nationalizing) a Foreign Car

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  1. T.J.

    T.J. I can choose my own title Registered Member

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    My car is a 2002 model and eligible for importation, or nationalization, even though it is already here on the temporary importation permit.

    I once saw a gov't website where you could enter the make, model and ID # and it would give you the cost of the nationalization. But I did not bookmark it and now I cannot find it.

    Does anyone know the exact process for accomplishing this chore? Sort of do it yourself guide, like doing your own FM2, FM3, etc.

    WEBSITE or sites??

    More specifically, the forms to fill out, attachments, costs, where to take them etc.

    I suppose the conversion makes financial sense now that tenencia is no more. I also suppose that there would be some import duty based on the value of the vehicle. I guess the main financial issue would be the cost of insurance for a national car vs a foreign registered car.

    Now that there is no tenencia, what happens to the license plates. Do these simply renew every year for a nominal fee?

    Thanks in advance for any enlightenment anyone can provide.
     
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    If your 2002 still qualifies, you'll need to go through a broker.

    Google translated:

    "The procedures for the permanent importation of vehicles not performed in the street. [SIZE=+0]Do not submit the documentation for your vehicle to people in public or operators. [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]Only a broker can do the procedure with the customs authority on their behalf. [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]Quoted and the services of a broker. [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]For more information, contact the Association of Customs Brokers in your area or on the pages of the [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]CAAAREM[/SIZE][SIZE=+0] or [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]CLAA[/SIZE][SIZE=+0] where you will find a directory of licensed brokers in the country [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]your agent Customs is responsible for:[/SIZE]

    • [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Doing business with the customs authority on their behalf[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    • [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Sort arancelariamente the vehicle[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    • [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Determining contributions to be paid[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    • [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Create an import permit[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Do not fall into the hands of fake operators. [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]Know your broker and make sure it is approved by the Ministry of Finance and Public Credit[/SIZE][/SIZE]

    [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Also, for purposes of the permanent importation of used cars, the broker shall:[/SIZE][/SIZE]

    1. [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Require the importer to the original title, verify that the document does not bear a legend identifying any of the conditions referred to in the preceding paragraph, verify that the original does not contain erasures, deletions, amendments or other feature to suppose that this document has been altered or forged, and after comparison with the original, the copy must establish simple attach to the permit, the following legend: "Manifesto under oath that this is true and correct copy the original I had in view "and must sign an autograph on a copy to be attached to the motion.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    2. [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Confirmed by consultation through the confederations, business chambers and associations that have the authorization referred to in Rule 1.8.1. [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]of the General Rules on Foreign Trade for 2011, that the vehicle is reported stolen, damaged, restricted or prohibited for circulation in the country of origin, must attach to the corresponding request, a copy of the impression that document and keep one in your files. [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]They must provide the importer of electronic or print the query result, which appears NIV. [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]The consultation referred to above, only apply to vehicles from the United States of America or Canada, which year model is less than 30 years to the date of importation, and must have at least the following information: [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]a)[/SIZE][SIZE=+0] Verification of reported stolen vehicles; [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]b)[/SIZE][SIZE=+0] Type of title, through which you can confirm the provisions of Section II, paragraph f) of section II of Rule 3.5.1., the General Rules on Foreign Trade for 2011; [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]c)[/SIZE][SIZE=+0] decoding the VIN, and [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]d)[/SIZE][SIZE=+0] key and number of motion, and the RFC or CURP the importer. [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]The confederations, business chambers and associations that have the authorization referred to in Rule 1.8.1. [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]of the above rules, to provide the consultation referred to in this subsection, shall make such information available to the SAT for real-time remote consultation. [/SIZE][SIZE=+0]In other cases, should be confirmed through the electronic vehicle information systems, that the vehicle is reported stolen, damaged, restricted or prohibited for circulation in the country of origin, must attach a printout of that document in the corresponding request and keep a print on file.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    3. [SIZE=+0][SIZE=+0]Take and keep on file the decal or digital photograph of the NIV and readable data confirm that the decal or photograph match the settlers in the documentation that covers the vehicle and must attach a copy of the decal or photograph to the motion.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
    4. [SIZE=+0]For purposes of the "Agreement are accepted as equivalent to NOM-041-SEMARNAT-2006, which establishes the maximum permissible emission of gaseous pollutants from the exhaust of motor vehicles in circulation that use diesel as fuel and NOM-047-SEMARNAT-1999, Establishing the characteristics of equipment and measurement procedure for verification of the emission limits of pollutants from motor vehicles in circulation that use gasoline, liquefied petroleum gas , natural gas or other alternative fuels, the regulations set forth procedures and their conformity assessment and are recognized as valid for purposes of demonstrating compliance at the point of entry into the country say the certificates, "published in the Official Journal of the Federation on October 20, 2011, shall verify the authenticity of the certificates mentioned in Article One of the said Agreement through databases or information sources of the environmental authorities of the States of Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico from the United States of America, or of particular databases, which are available electronically for consultation, for purposes of the provisions of Articles 36, Section I, paragraph c) of the Act, 26 of the FTA, Annex 2.4.1 of the Agreement the Ministry of Economy issues rules and general criteria in foreign trade, published in the Official Journal of the Federation on July 6, 2007, and by the relevant agreement, for which they can attach to the corresponding request print copies of this document and keep one in your files."[/SIZE]
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  5. T.J.

    T.J. I can choose my own title Registered Member

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    Got an email quote today from a broker. $1,555 US DOLLARS. He said it would only take 2-3 days.

    I think that's about enough. OMG. I could ship the car back to FL and bring my other car here for that. And sell the 02 for more than I can get here.

    Go figure.
     
  6. valgunn

    valgunn Enthusiast Registered Member

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    We weighed the pros/cons of importing our cars vs. selling them in US and buying in Mexico. Ended up that for the hassle and cost it was not worth nationalizing our vehicles.
     
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    Thanks Val. I am tending to lean that way too, although I have had a FL registered car here since 2006, after my first one got killed by Wilma.

    I guess one alternative is to sell it cheap to another foreignor and float another one over from Port Everglades/Ft. Lauderdale or just buy one here.

    Decisions, decisions, it's always "sumthin".
     
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    valgunn Enthusiast Registered Member

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    Rather than having to locate a shipper, figure out customs, and pay for registering a vehicle--it came out cheaper and with much less effort to sell before leaving for Mexico (we sold off everything--save keepsakes). One thing that really sold us was this:

    https://tradein.autotrader.com/ATPages/TradeInMarketPlace.aspx

    The value of used cars was strong (at the time) due to the economy and tougher credit requirements for people wanting something new. So we ended up making money on both of our trade-ins. It was extremely simple, and took the sleaziness of used car-sales out of the process.
     
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