Earliest Time Frame For Safest Booking Post Coronavirus....?

Your underlying message is still what is important. Stay the F*CK home. We are asked to do this so that our healthcare system can respond to a slower roll out of COVID-19 and not be under staffed, under machined and under supplied.
Do you want a Dr. to make the decision of saving your loved one over someone else's because they don't have enough vents for everyone. This is reality NOT A HOAX .
Be less selfish and understand the ramifications of infecting a large population of people.
Does it have a spread/multiplication factor like AIDS? You have unprotected sex with someone it is like having sex with everyone they had unprotected sex with and then the people they had unprotected sex with and then grows exponentially. If it does, is that clarification on how a population can be infected quickly if gatherings and isolation are not implemented. Then the healthcare systems can't keep up.

 

You might be missing one very big point when you tell people to stay the fuck at home while you go to work and get paid.. there is 500X more people not in health care with no income that will not make it out of of this financially in a couple more weeks and thus their lives could be ruined, maybe taken by their own hand, and i hope and pray not, but you are under estimating that this cure might just be as bad or worse than the cause if everyone stays the fuck at home until May 15...

 

I'm done with this thread.

Here is a link to an instructional video on how to was hands properly.
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enjoy

 

I miss complaining about Bachelor parties.

 

Lmao!!

 

In Washington, the positive rate is starting to level off

COVID-19/Coronavirus Real Time Updates With Credible Sources in US and Canada | 1Point3Acres

 

Yes, those rates look optimistic, and in a closed controlled situation that may be acceptable. The numbers on the Diamond Princess were a much smaller population, therefore more manageable.
Again, the restrictions are more about managing the impact on the hospitals. We are not equipped to deal with the surge that will happen if left uncontrolled. That will increase the mortality rates of COVID-19 and other co-morbidities significantly.

 

If we could lock everyone in their rooms and completely control the spread like the cruise ship did ONCE THEY REALIZED WHAT THEY WERE DEALING WITH then sure .26% seems like a realistic rate. Why it isn’t a fair comparison is that isn’t possible in the real world. There are different levels of lockdown and being able to control spread. It isn’t a yes / no question like on a cruise ship where control is much easier. It is a fact that States which invoked procedures to minimize spread sooner than others have flattened the curve and slowed the actual spread. Any smaller amount of deaths and sickness are better than larger amounts. PA was one of the first states with cases but was also one of the first states to close schools and only allow essential businesses. We were in top 5 or 6 of cases early on. The counties primarily hit early are the type of people that were going to listen to health experts and not unnamed people in the govt claiming to have tremendous control and not to worry. As a result, while our numbers have still grown, states that didn’t invoke similar controls (Florida, Louisiana, etc) have surged past us in counts. Testing is similar so you can’t make that excuse. Why does one think there are such different rates? My conclusion is the level of control over the spread. Schools closed later, businesses shutdown later and there is a population much more likely to listen to the governments rhetoric than health officials in those states with higher growth rates of cases. Of course there are other variables at play such as amount of visitors but of course those visitors only count towards their state counts but likely increased spread rates while in other states visiting. Another case for staying home. We are next to the state with over 50% of the countries cases, New York, which is a factor that should work against us eventually, unless everyone stays home. Sadly unlike a cruise ship that isn’t entirely possible as we all venture out to get food and go for jogs, etc but one thing is clear even if mortality rates and testing rates are not. The more people that stay home the less will get infected and the less we will strain the health system and the less people will die. I mean isn’t that the ultimate goal?

There was a time where saying ‘more deaths is better than people losing their jobs’ would have been a completely ridiculous socially unacceptable thing to say. I am sad that we are no longer in those times.

 

As a Canadian looking in from the outside, I'm very worried about America, with there being no consistent response across the country and acute shortages of medical equipment. There is a story on TV this morning showing nurses in NYC wearing garbage bags as PPE. I have a heavy sense of dread that a catastrophe is developing. I am particularly worried about Florida, where there are so many elderly people.

Like Kyle, I am appalled at the weighing of lives against the economy. I am no socialist and in fact I lean toward the right side of the political spectrum, but how could it ever be okay to say that our grandparents should agree to risk their lives so the economy will recover sooner for the rest of us? Oh my. That sounds like something we'd expect China to do, except that China instead instituted a prolonged and severe lockdown to protect its citizens, regardless of age. I am in no way discounting the impact of shelter-at-home on the economy when I say this, but let's not allow Coronavirus to steal our humanity from us.

Instead, if you are not currently working as a result of the virus, think about what small things you might be able to do to help others. Sean is gathering masks from people in the Vancouver film industry (masks are sometimes used on set during explosions or for other reasons), and driving them to hospitals. I am not keen on him being out and about in the community (we are under a social distancing order in our province), but we are one of the fortunate households where one spouse has been able to continue working full time, and we therefore feel a duty to help others, even in this small way.