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I am a Mexican lawyer and unfortunately corruption of the police is a reality we have to live with every day. That said, I think it would be a good idea for the administrator of this site or somebody who lives in Cancun to identify and make available a good lawyer who can assist somebody in cases such as this. If he had had a lawyer to help him out, his chances of getting out more quickly and with less expense would have been much better.

 

I agree, I read the original post by Ingram and was surprised that others there did not step in help the situation before it escalated by removing the single drunk douchebag. That being said when the police were called, did the resort not have some responsibility in knowing the events that occurred before the police were called to make an arrest... This is bullshit. Because it could have happened to anyone one, on my last day of my trip couple years a ago this drunk kid was getting handsy with my buddies wife... I step in and he wants to be a tough guy, I offer to do a shot with him and tell him to back off because he doesn't want to start his vacation in a Mexican jail, and another person in the group pointed this idiot to the bartender to have him removed from the pool area. The point being is that it could have been different outcome if a punch was thrown, I would expect & hope that there would have been enough support to get the story out before an arrest was made.

 

This was a terrible situation to have to go through but there are lessons to be learned here for everyone visiting this site.

1. When confronted by an intoxicated and unruly individual in a foreign country, report the issue do not engage, Numbers work for you here take friends with you to report.

2. Do not initiate or make physical contact with the individual except after they have made an attempt at violence and then subdue do not strike when possible.

3. If you are forced to make contact with the police in Mexico for something of this scope take MANY friends to make the report. I would take no less than 6-8 people to make the report, you want an overwhelming amount of people corroborating your story. Try and take a hotel employee if possible.

4. Most situations like this can be stopped before they ever get to this point by a clear threat to go to security early on in the situation, followed by going when they ignore it.

5.6.7.8.9.10. This is Mexico not America the same rights and expectations do not apply, don't ever expect it too. Assume the worst and act accordingly with the issues, at hand. Physical Violence of any sort here can and will land you in jail even self-defense so make sure it is worth going to that extreme before you do.

Ingram I am so sorry you and your lady had to go through this, hopefully someone can help you resolve it.

 

Man, I hate doing this when I'm not at work, but here is the pertinent portion of the story from a factual inquiry point of view:

"Julie had enough, told him to fuck off ,and pushed him. He then pushed her back, I grabbed him, he fell down on his back and then he laid there kicking. Security rushed in and broke it up. Not a punch was thrown…"

So... if you were in the U.S. I can analyze this for you.

What happened was that:

1.) Your wife was being given shit by a public disturbance (the idiot drunk guy);

2.) rather than getting security involved (they are around all the time, but they are good at their job and you don't notice them) she took matters into her own hands... which fshe's really not supposed to do (that whole "that's why we have police & security" thing);

3.) She told him to fuck off (no problem yet);

4.) She pushed him (problem, that's assault, the misdemeanor Class C type here in TX);

5.) He pushed her back (self-defense, no shit);

6.) You grabbed him and he fell down (swing vote as to another Class C misdemeanor on you or Defense of Another, depends on Mexico, in TX no worries, but you WERE in Mexico); and

7.) He lays there kicking (proving that he's a douche).

The fact that not a punch was thrown is irrelevant.

Why didn't Julie just tell someone from the resort immediately when the guy was being a jerk? Tht's the pertinent inquiry.

Yes, you got screwed by the Mexican police, but that's what they do. It "could" easily have been her in the cell, though it sounds like - she getting cuffed, too - they considered her part of the problem. I'll take a wild guess. I ask you, was there perhaps too much alcohol involved on everyone's part?

Sucks to have that stuff happen in Mexico, on vacation, on your anniversary trip, I get That's PRECISELY why people tell stories about "Don't get in touble in Mexico, it's way fucked-up..."

 

This is what the embassy is for they likely won't investigate but will be able to put pressure on the resort to communicate with him in a reasonable manner, there are likely still witnesses that were there at the time still at the resort and on this board that were there and can assist him in getting the correct report filed on what happened. They could also see possibly that she was fully provoked at that point and ignore minimal contact. Doesn't make it ok but does open the door for the resort hear their side of the story and possibly offer a return trip or something in compensation for the situation in which they did not even present their side of the story

 

If I thought for a second that I was going to get in trouble when they asked me to come to the front I would of had a bunch of my friends come at witnesses.

I told them 'I guess I have to go to the front and make some kind of statement, I'll be right back'

This incident wasn't worthy of a boot and certainly not an arrest. I figured security would put the drunk guy to bed, I'd see him the next day, have a beer, and laugh about it.

I didn't come all that way for drama. Temptations messed up big time and nobody is stepping up to resolve this situation. This ended up costing me thousands of dollars and absolutely wrecked my 5th year wedding anniversary.

We are huge fans of the resort, they need to make good on this.

 

You did your part as the concerned husband (right fully so) and attempted to prevent what could have wound up a more violent assault on your wife...and went to make a statement of the events as a responsible person.

I get the shit happens and tomorrow is another day...think we all have been there to some extent and are willing to forgive a few drunken antics. Crap, we all make mistakes at times and as long as we accept the responsibility and apologize for being an asshole things can be OK (as you said). But the resort did take it way too far by calling the cops with out enough info...which is why I think as some others have said that someone may have been getting a kick back.

Either way drunk Single dude is an asshole for not willing to man up for his wrong actions even when he deserved a beating he never got.

Wish I could help with your efforts in dealing with the resort for compensation (or at least an apology) but since I can't I would like to be able to at least help you two out in another way...please pm me.

To drunk single asshole if you are on this site...karma is a bitch! Instead of telling you friends what you say happened try the truth...that you are sexual predator and can't accept responsibility for your actions!

 

Okay, I have to weigh in here. First off, I have no idea what Mexico's laws are regarding assault but, if a woman gets to the point where she has been so harassed by a drunk single man I don't see much of a foul in her pushing him. Really, what kind of a pussy is this guy? I have a serious issue the the resort, especially as a Premiere member for doing what they did. Where was security when this douche was harassing her? They should have given him the boot and apologized to the offended couple. Blondie and I suddenly feel significantly less safe at TTR now and have to reevaluate our willingness to put ourselves at such risk again. A lot could hinge on what the resort, particularly the Premiere office, does to try to compensate these people for what they went through. This is truly fucked up. No, TTR has no say over what the cops do but they didn't have to turn their guest over to them like they did. And then for Temptation to kick them out without even getting their side of the story and not giving them a refund is unforgivable. Mecca has been tainted.

 

This is total bull sh-t. I seem you and youer wife in past times and I know how you noramaly keep to yourselves. The resort needs gets to get a handle. Don't give up on this great resort and all the normal and great people at resort.

 

Over 2000 views,,, I,m sure TTR are some of them.
Maybe some emails to the resort expressing our concerns of being turned over to the cops for projecting our wives ?