Dude, I am not asking you to be sorry or feel for me about my complaints or comments. I just want fellow travelers to be ware of these guys at the City. And for records, I never acted out of line. Because I am aware I am in foreign country and I need to be careful. Stay real my friend.
Good point brother. we tipped almost everyone who never asked or expected tips. And, they deserved it due to excellent service. But, when bartenders demands tips like gangsters or bully and in return they won't serve us drinks, then yeah it's not gonna happen. And, all my friends will start to avoid the City in the future due to their corrupted bartenders. I want to make sure that other bloggers on this forum know about this before going to the City.
Ive had shitty experiences when going out in Cancun. It happens, everywhere in the world. I dont mind tipping when a/several people at an establishment have worked for it, but I never tip if someone asks me for it. I also refuse to pay if the receipt includes the tip. Im sorry "lets_party" had a bad experience - theres never an excuse for that, but it does happen, "even" in countries and cities that are supposed to be more civilized(lol). I dont mind making people aware of certain events, if it can help prevent future crap. If that would discourage people from coming to Cancun, well, its that/those person/peoples choice. The main issue is that the shitty behavior of some, give everyone a bad rep. Id like to think that people that visit Cancun are smart enough NOT to judge all for the actions of a few. Ps: Not quite the same, but still "funny": When I applied for my first visa to stay and live in Cancun, a lady at the local Immigration office asked me for cash, out loud. Her excuse? "Do you know how little we make in this job??" My jaw dropped and I had to stop myself from laughing. "Poor me... Give me cash!!" Sorry, that will never work on me.
Gonna have to disagree on this one Tori. When a tourist pays $60 to get into a nightclub and it's sold to them as "all you can drink, all inclusive" by the guys out on the street outside (looking for commission) or hotel Ents staff (looking for commission) then that is what they should get without the waiter getting into their face and refusing to do what he is paid to do unless he is tipped. The asking for tips or withholding service attitude is far too prevalent and low salary is no excuse, employers should pay more or employees should seek a better job. It's not the tourists fault when he doesn't receive what he was promised, and he is perfectly entitled to be pissed off when what he has been promised doesn't happen. Too many people here see tourists as walking ATM's. The Incident No 1 referred to, cutting off the wristband and stealing from a drunken mans pocket.. who would do that other than an employee/security? So his friend got drunk? That's what he was promised. No excuse to be robbed by staff. Deplorable. For sure, tips should be freely given when someone provides good service - keeping the drinks flowing, bringing a round of shots you didn't ask for, moving you to a better table etc and most tourists are happy to tip in those circumstances. That is what keeps them promoting Cancun as a fun place to visit. Word of mouth like that promotes Cancun far more than a web site like this can. Do we want to rip tourists for as much as possible, hope we never see them again and hope they don't speak out about it? Or do we give them a great time, hope they tell others what a great time they had and see them with extra friends next year? I know my answer.
We are only hearing one side of the story...and every story has three sides. Hotel Entertainment get paid SHIT! The Commissions for the nightclubs are more then half their salary. I deal with ppl that got to hotels and don't tip their waiter and waitresses cause they are at an all inclusive. That is BS!!!! People should be smarter then that and tip..tip...tip. Once I tell people how much the staff makes...from Maids to Entertainment, they feel bad, and then start paying up. The same goes for the Bartenders and waiters at the nightclubs. I don't it's called ripping off when it should be a no brainer. We don't tip taxis here in Cancun. But last month when I was in NYC, and the asshole cabbie solicited a tip from me, after a 5 min, $23 ride. Did I freak out and tell ppl never to take a taxi in NYC, no. What is custom in one area, may not be in another. And your statement, "There is easy way out miss Tori. Get out of Cancun or get education where you can earn money to make a decent living instead of waiting on tips." is ridiculous. you obviously know nothing of Mexico to say that. And if you are saying to me, you have real balls...and your an ass!!!!
I think you owe an apology to Tori. She is working in Cancun due to her choice in a job she chose. What you stated here about her is clearly a total insult to her and the rest of us in the forum. As for drivers charging you $20 to go from Temptation to Coco Bongo-well if you knew how things work in Cancun you would also know that fares in the hotel zone are far more expensive then outside of the hotel zone. And if you really want to be cheap you should have taken the bus for 8.5 pesos. You chose to take the cab and you agree to the price, and now you complain? Give us a break here.
I am now wondering on what you are supposed to be buying when you go into Coco Bongo or The City. Is all inclusive meant AND SPECIFIED to include TIPS? If so, and the customer was refused service, he could find and speak to a Capitan and this should be rectified without incident. Like Steve says, most of us locals don't venture out to the HZ's high prices, ripoffs and arbitrary late night traffic stops by cops looking for a bribe. On the other hand, if you stay "all inclusive" this should include tips but, to second what Tori says, you should tip everyone you come in touch with that does you some sort of service. You are on vacation where the dollar buys so much more than in the states or Canada so tipping should not be out of your thought range. And if you are paying $50 or whatever, what's another $1 per drink or round of drinks. I have never heard of $20 from TTR to Coco Bongo. It should be no more than $50 pesos. Or walk your ass across the street and get on an $8.5 peso bus, about $.65 US. No one in their right mind would take a taxi within the HZ when the buses run 24/7, unless it is pouring rain. Leaving a hotel though, always have the bellman get you a cab and he should be able to tell you the proper fare and confirm it with the driver for you. Hurry back to Paradise. BTW, Tori is a wonderful gal and a great friend and knows of what she speaks. Her heart is always in the right place. She could be anywhere in the states doing what she wants and she is here by choice, not because she has no options. It is hard for foreignors to work here because they cannot take a job that a Mexican can and will do. It's a bit more complicated than that but options are somewhat limited for employment. Time share is the best option but not for everyone. She works for commissions and not "waiting for tips". Big difference amigo. When I first came to Cancun as a tourist, maids made the equivalent of $3 US per day. Hell, I tipped her $3 a day and was happy to do so. That was a lifetime ago though. Not sure what they make now but it's not much.
Thanks Steve. And Tori, I am not going to use foul language or A or F words to make this forum more entertaining. That said, I will be ignoring your posts and other posts from your friends who are supporting you. To other readers - I just came here to write my opinion and let other guys know what to expect when they go to night clubs.
In some sort, I agree to a certain extent with all parties. To me, however, there is a huge difference between tipping someone that deserves it, versus someone that threatens to stop serving you if you do NOT tip them. Call it blackmailing, or whatever you want. When it comes to "badmouthing" the City: Heck, I see this almost daily regarding other places, such as Wal Mart, Home Depot, INM(immigration) etc. Its a natural response if ya´ll ask me. You have an incident in a certain hotel(example only), you file a complaint and most likely, talk to friends and family about that/those incidents. Word of mouth is, by far, the best form of marketing, but, it swings both ways: Companies, like The City, in this case, should deal with the staff that resort to begging, blackmailing and stealing. They know that it exists, and its their choice to act on it, or, if they dont, suffer from it. Hopefully the main staff at The City can take notice and do something about these hyenas, but then again, is it part of the entire "show"..? Id like to think that its not. Tip those that deserve it - dont tip the ones that act like idiots.
