What's happens with the be live Cancun hotel??

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  1. micmike30

    micmike30 Newbie Registered Member

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    Hi guys,i'm from canada and i go to cancun 4 times and i want to return in january 2011 but here in canada we cannot reserve with the be live cancun (Ex Oasis Cancun) because all the compagnies (Aircanada,toursmontroyal,nolitours...) doesnt want to make business with this hotel.Somebody can tell me why ??
     
  2. Canadian Dos Equis fan

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    My guess is that they haven't made arrangements with any of the major Canadian tour operators yet. You could try their website and book flights separately or visit a travel agent and see if they can help you out. You may also want to think about booking through an American site. You may have to plan for a flight to an American airport to make it work though.

    Good luck!
     
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    Also it may be possible that the tour operators weren't getting a good deal from the owners of that hotel or otherwise have a reason not to want to deal with them. Again it is odd for a hotel and by all means you may want to talk to a travel agent about it.
     
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    taylor24 Newbie Registered Member

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    pocodinero Regular Registered Member

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    All of the hotels are closed right now except for the Grand Oasis which is only partialy open. They are only selling rooms to Mexican citizens and the going rate right now is only $27 USD.
    The other problem which occured is that there are a few thousand people out of jobs right now since there were 5 Oasis Hotels here.
     
  6. NicHamburg

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    I can only speak for myself and a couple of other SpringBreakers.

    I was able to book with my travelcompany and a few did book directly with the hotel
     
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    T.J. I can choose my own title Registered Member

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    Yes, Nic but you probably were wasted at the time and just dreaming. Better double check.

    How you doin' amigo? Maybe will see you at La Taberna next time you come to town.
     
  8. Dangers

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    The Oasis/ BeLive saga is a long and extracted story, I'll try and cut to the chase referencing commonalities as opposed to listing every corporate entity, court and venue.

    Generally, in late 2006, Oasis Hotels and their marketing arm, TravAmerica, signed a commercialization /management agreement with Globalia and by extension their marketing segment, InterTravel, to manage the Cancun based Oasis Resorts, expand the resorts presence and the Oasis Flag name. Basically, Globalia leased these rights starting in 2007 from the Oasis Hoteles, ending in early 2011(?), from my current understanding.

    Everything, apparently, went smoothly until the "Swine Flu" pandemic in 2009 that sent occupancy rates in Cancun spiraling at the Oasis Resorts. Globalia, distraught over the lack of income from the resorts, failed to make the required lease payments and was attempting to renegotiate the leases without alleged proper communication. At this point, Oasis Hoteles, claimed breach of contract, demanded payment and requested that Globalia abide by the contractual agreement. Globalia responded by claiming that contractual "force majeure" was now in effect, and that the deal would have to be renegotiated based on the loss of anticipated revenues.

    Oasis Hoteles, under the terms of the agreement, moved to binding arbitration in Luxembourg, the arbitrator finding in the large majority for most legal obligations to Oasis Hoteles favor.

    Globalia, a major international travel entity, now revoked for the most part by the arbitration award, refused to honor the arbitrator's decision.

    Subsequently, they refused to relinquish the operation of the resorts, including most commercialization rights. As a result, Oasis Hoteles filed various jurisdictional lawsuits in Europe, Mexico and the United States to seek enforcement and international recognition of their rights to own and operate their resorts without interference from Globalia, breach of contract, and substantial financial damage awards.

    In an effort to meet the arbitration requirements in part, Globalia, then changed the Oasis Flag to the Be Live Flag, not only in Cancun but in other resorts that they had at least temporarily flagged as Oasis Resorts under their control but unrelated to actual ownership by Oasis Hoteles.

    Globalia currently controls the resorts and the marketing websites despite the arbitration award against and the multiple ongoing lawsuits filed against them, including a RICO filing in the US Federal Courts, by Oasis Hoteles and/ or their corporate affiliates.

    Below is a cross post (my own) from T/A that is tied to the current situation. Additionally since that post, both parties have made formal motion(s) against each other, predominantly, Oasis Hoteles, that despite the US Federal Court temporary injunction, Globalia continues to circumvent the court ruling. The trial is slated for a January/2011 jury hearing, yet to be formally scheduled.

    Regarding the Oasis Resort(s) situation; the Northern Georgia Federal Court in response to both the plaintiff, TravAmerica (via Oasis Hoteles, but not legal standing) and the defendant, Intertravel (via Globalia) has qualified the court's positions and orders:

    As of September 15, 2010, here's what I'm getting from it;

    TravAmerica has shown that it has "exclusive marketing rights" to market, book and sell accommodations at the 10 Oasis Resorts in question to "tour operators" in the US, Canada and Europe. Tour Operators has been widely defined from travel agencies to airlines. All findings by the court are preliminary but the current injunctions and restraining orders are upheld until further action by the court.

    Intertravel is restrained from using, exploiting, taking, stealing or misappropriating the "exclusive marketing rights" of the resorts under either Oasis trade name or any other name.

    Intertravel is not prohibited however from:

    1) marketing, selling or booking the resorts to "tour operators" outside the US, Canada and Europe

    2) marketing, selling or booking the resorts over the Internet provided they don't book from US, Canada and Europe based tour operators.

    3)direct dial or calling centers provided they don't book from US, Canada and Europe based tour operators.

    4) advertising the resorts as long as they don't do so through or to US, Canada and Europe based tour operators.

    5) accepting walk up bookings

    6) honoring reservations booked on or before August 12, 2010 by any tour operator.

    The injunctions and restraining order shall remain in effect for a period of ninety days as previously noted until a future court date is established, sometime in January/2011, and/or the parties settle out of court.
     
  9. Steve

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    Thanks for that Dangers.

    So... if you do want to book then use a Mexican provider :) You can currently book the 'Spring Break' Oasis here at 50% off and the other Oasis / BeLive properties can be found on my hotels page:
    http://www.cancuncare.com/Cancun_Hotels/

    I would say though it's a pretty big risk that the hotels are likely to be very quiet if you do.
     
  10. micmike30

    micmike30 Newbie Registered Member

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    Thanks for the info!!Probably,the hotel will be desert for a while so im gonna to book with tucancun hotel,thank you!
     
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